They're gaining knowledge. I may not be making a mole-hill out of a mountain as to that. Tvolve wasn't a dream for me. They're gaining time. For every individual who loathes Tvolve there are one-hundred established people who are enchanted by Tvolve. It is something that you learn over time. Pardon me, but I give that powerful opinion. No sweat yes? If you've read your Bible, you know there are a lot of proverbs with regard to Tvolve.